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THE SHACK, PART II

August 31st, 2008 · 2 Comments

“If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.” (I Corinthians 13:1-2)

I’m kind of afraid to use a title like that. I’m afraid that some of my readers are so smart they’ll know what the entire letter says just by reading the title. I didn’t know I had readers that smart, but apparently I do.

So, for my sake, you gotta make me a promise right now. Promise me you’ll read the whole letter before making up your mind about what I said. I know, I know. I go on and on and it seems like sometimes I’ll never finish, but you can’t always get the whole picture until you’ve read me all the way through.

I’m being a smart aleck. But it seems that I started a little fire with last week’s letter and a lot of the heat, from what I gather, came from folks who either didn’t read the book I was talking about or didn’t read the letter they were reading (or both) when they got all fired up.

Don’t get mad and delete me just yet. Remember, you promised to read this letter all the way through.

On the upside, this little controversy has really increased traffic on the www.gotpotential.org blog. You can go there to read everybody’s comments, good and bad.

On the down side, three people ‘unsubscribed’ to the Purpose Weekly letter because my “comments have become too far out of doctrine.”

On the upside, in the past I’ve had a lot more people than that ‘unsubscribe’ out of sheer boredom. The subscription doesn’t cost anything and the price of gas has gone down, so financially I’m a little ahead.

I’m sorry. I’m being a smart aleck again. I’ll stick to business for the rest of the letter.

First of all – If you haven’t read last week’s letter, you won’t know what I’m talking about so when you’re done here go to www.gotpotential.org and read “THE SHACK- In Defense of William P. Young.” We got a lot of reaction from that letter; good and bad. And it was quick too. People were commenting right away; like they’d already made up their minds in advance. I don’t know that my letter really influenced anybody who commented.

This all began as a result of one of my readers asking, “Where is God when something unbearably tragic happens and why would a God who loves me allow something like that to happen in the first place?” I wrote last week’s letter and used William P. (Paul) Young’s book, THE SHACK as one man’s attempt at answering the question.

Well, up in the right column (that’s where I give hints about what the letter is about because I’m afraid you won’t read the whole thing) I said, “You’ll love it or you’ll hate it …” I hit that one right on the money.

We send Purpose Weekly out to 276 people, then to the blog site. I wish it was more but that’s what it is. Out of the 276, four wrote in and told me how disappointed they were that I ‘endorsed’ THE SHACK; three others unsubscribed out of the same disappointment. You gotta hand it to the four who wrote in; they didn’t unsubscribe. Good for you guys.

Four wrote in and told me how wonderful it was that I endorsed THE SHACK and how it changed their lives and the lives of others. I only received one new subscriber that ‘loved’ my ‘endorsement.’ (Note to people who love what they think I’m saying on the blog – subscribe to the letter! It’s very encouraging to me.)

Here’s my problem, I liked the book, I used it as an illustration; I just didn’t know I was endorsing it. And I’m almost positive I didn’t say anything about adding it to Holy Scripture.

Paul Young addressed pain and suffering and forgiveness and wholeness better than I could. Some of the parts even made me cry (a little caveat here: a lot of things make me cry; I’m either spiritually sensitive or slightly unbalanced, take your pick).

A lot of what was in the book made me shake my head. Paul broke down barriers and stereotypes about how we regard our relationship with God, but he did it in such a way that made him run right up to the edge of heresy’s cliff. Maybe he even stepped over a few times.

I’m not endorsing heresy.

(Okay, this is for the 265 people who really didn’t have an issue with last week’s letter, or loved it or hated it and didn’t have the time, interest or whatever to write in: “heresy” means “holding of unorthodox opinion.” “Orthodox” we covered last week; it means “following traditional doctrine.”)

I’m on the side on “following traditional doctrine.” Unless, of course, it’s wrong. Some of what Paul Young said was wrong. A lot of what Paul Young said was right.

All you guy’s who jumped me for pointing that out – I’m asking you to check your own ‘orthodoxy’. Some of what you said was right. If you had really read my letter you would have seen that I agree with you. Was some of what you said wrong?

That’s my question.

*****

The first letter I received was from someone who actually read THE SHACK, thanking me for defending the book. I’m pretty sure she didn’t actually read my letter though, she wrote me two minutes after I posted it. Evelyn Wood couldn’t read one of my letters in two minutes.

The first letter I received blasting the book and the author came in about an hour and a half later, so I’m pretty sure my letter didn’t prompt any further research or consideration of the subject on his part.

I’m not going to reproduce his entire letter here or my entire response; Purpose Weekly is long enough without that. I’ll post both to www.gotpotential.org in their entirety, so you can read them there. I’ll just give you the high points here:

XXXXX: “Steve:  Normally I agree with your material but believe you are seriously off-base here.   The Shack is horrendous.”

Steve: “I’m assuming you’ve read THE SHACK and not just heard about it. And I’m assuming you really read my letter all the way through without being blinded by what some people would consider as an unqualified endorsement.”

XXXXX: “Jesus is never identified as the Christ. Where is the blood in this book? There is no need for a savior because everything was forgiven already.”

Steve: “This book, from what I see, was in no way ever intended to cover a broad spectrum of theology. But what I did see was Young’s treatment of the scars left from Calvary and the incomprehensible price paid for man’s redemption.”

XXXXX: “Universalism – No Hell.”

Steve: “Paul Young loves Jesus, he’s not a Universalist and he believes that the only way to salvation is through Christ.” (If XXXXX had taken the time and effort to meet Paul Young or read his letters, he would have known this. But there’s no sense in giving another Christian the benefit of the doubt.)

XXXXX: “Communicating with the dead is forbidden by scripture. No self-assessment by Mack thinking that what he is seeing could be deceptive. Hinduism and New Age throughout the book.”

Steve: “Some of your bullet points are valid and I agree with them. ‘Theologically [THE SHACK] may have some points to argue; like the femaleness of the God character (the Holy Spirit is a woman too, Asian this time) and the lack of any hierarchy in the Godhead, or the soft sell on sin.’” (Honestly, some of his bullet points I didn’t get. Hinduism? I was beginning to think he was reading from the annotated and expanded version of THE SHACK and I only had the cheap Sam’s Wholesale Club condensed paperback version.)

XXXXX: “Belittlement of fundamentalist Christians and their doctrine.”

Steve: “If fundamentalist Christians were really fundamentally Christian, then I doubt books like THE SHACK or movements like the ‘emergent church’ would ever see the light of day. These people are sincere and they’re looking for answers and the fundamentalist church, in many ways, has failed to provide them. The Word hasn’t changed. If we’ve failed them we’d better look at our own adherence to it.”

And my personal favorite:

XXXXX: “Yes, there is mushy love and all that stuff in the book.”

Steve: “There’s nothing wrong with the ‘fundamental’ part of fundamentalism. We’d better preserve and teach good doctrine, in love, to the entire Body of Christ. That includes those who are so wrapped up in tradition and cultural orthodoxy that there’s no room in their hearts for love and relationship; and it includes the newbies, who are starved for love and relationship, but think they have to create their own orthodoxy because they see the old one as failed.” (As for me and my house, we’ll stick with “mushy love and all that stuff.”)

I’ll end this letter how I ended that letter.

“Hopefully you understood the point of my sub-title ‘Throwing the Baby out with the Bathwater.’ Those who, in their naïveté would accept THE SHACK as gospel, I wanted to ground a little. Those who, in their hard hearted fundamentalism, threw the entire message contained in THE SHACK away as apostasy, I wanted to open their eyes a little.”

“If you and I and Paul Young are followers of the same Christ, it’s our job, according to Paul in the 4th chapter of Ephesians to travel that road together – “tell the whole truth in love.” You and I e-mailing each other doesn’t benefit the Body at all. We’re part of the same Body, not parties in opposing camps. A lot of the Body is so steeped in tradition they’ve got no room to love others in the Body, let alone the lost. A lot of the Body is so new and ignorant of good doctrine that they’ll consider anything that feels good gospel. I’d like to have this discussion in public. Would you be open to posting this discussion on the website, open for comment? It may actually show the Body and the world that we believers aren’t a series of opposing camps, but truly one in Christ.”

XXXXX hasn’t gotten back to me about making this discussion public. I’m going to take that as a ‘yes’.

“And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” (I Corinthians 13:13)

In Love,

Steve Spillman

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2 responses so far ↓

  • 1 admin // Sep 28, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    a note from reader Carol:

    You have a remarkably humble heart Steve. I must say, I’m not quite as good as you at being challenged, I tend to jump into defensiveness and then have to calm myself down. I’ve been working on that ever since I accepted Jesus as Lord. You are a very, very gracious man and having these exchanges has been a great blessing to me as well. I DEFINITELY learn from you, that’s why I read what you write.

    I’m grateful you didn’t see this as me being petulant and wanting to argue with you. Although rereading what I wrote one could take it that way. I’m very grateful you didn’t because it truly wasn’t meant in any way to upset you. None of my emails or postings to you are meant in anything but the love of Christ.

    The thing about me is – once I was delivered from cult teachings/brainwashing – and it was literally in a moment of time deliverance Praise God — the Lord quickly also delivered me from feelings of inadequacy and insecurity. Therefore even though I was always a bold type of person to an extent, this afforded me the ability to write and speak about the truth of the gospel without caring what others think about me. So – I tend to be blunt sometimes. I’m working on that as well! I’m relieved you didn’t see my postings as too harsh.

    What is that saying, “Be patient, God isn’t through with me yet.”

    I definitely see what you’re trying to do with your writings that’s why I read what you write. I don’t “do” newsletters too often. I can’t stand the Spam, then the newsletters and I also sift through Michael English’s fan mail. So I get hundreds of emails a day, sometimes per hour. But “something” (the Holy Spirit?) told me to subscribe to your newsletter. THEN – even on the rare occasions that I do subscribe well-intentioned, I find I don’t have the time to read them! But yours I read. And you hit it on the head, I’m HYPER about staying totally, utterly spot-on when it comes to scripture. I that is a concern with you as well.

    Privately, if someone like you – very, very, VERY seasoned in God’s Word picked up something like “The Shack”, I have zero problem with it. I have every confidence you would pick out the Biblical inaccuracies as you already have. What I have taken issue with is you publicly endorsing it. You’ll have someone out there like my oldest daughter—teetering on the precipice — do I believe again or do I continue to reject Jesus Christ? Then she reads the Shack on your recommendation or because other respected men of God said it was “Good” or “Alright” to read it. That’s why this discussion continues!

    But you’re sticking your neck out there, and believe me, I know that’s not easy. I was on the Lansing State Journal’s advisory board. There were 18 of us along with two editors and we’d meet once a month to discuss how the newspaper was living up to community standards as well as write editorials for the newspaper. To say I was vilified is such an understatement. To see first hand how a head editor of a major newspaper HATED and I mean spit flying from his mouth when he spoke of him – George W. Bush, was such an amazing insight. I was the only Christian conservative in the room each meeting. One evening, because I wrote about MY faith and the faith of the President, one woman hissed at me in front of everyone, “YOU BIGOT! YOU RACIST ANIMAL! YOU ARE WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!” Huh? I didn’t even IMPLY something about anyone’s race, or speak about anyone else for that matter other than the President and that he’s my brother in Christ.

    Well – the woman was a Jew. I met with her afterwards and asked her was she sure she read MY column? Then she told me her daughter read it too and came up with the same conclusion – with hatred burning in her eyes. I apologized if anything I had written upset her and her daughter, then calmly told her I love Jews! My mother was born and raised on Delancey Street, New York and for most of my life I thought so many things that were Jewish was Italian and vice-versa. I said my Italian culture and the Jewish American culture are SO similar that the line distinguishing the two was blurred. Then I said to her, “My Savior, the very reason I breathe, was a Jew, how could I hate or even dislike Jews? I love them with all my heart!” I knew she believed me. She didn’t WANT to believe me, but it was the truth and she knew I was telling the truth. So for one single second, there was a truce. But as the days went by, her hatred for me knew no bounds and she would tell others in the community (outside of these meetings) things about me and why I was such a horrible person.

    We do it for love. The Love of Jesus. We stick out necks out there because we are called to do it. We do it Because He Lives! I know what you do and putting yourself out there isn’t easy. You’re doing an excellent job! And since you asked for it, you have my permission to use whatever you want. IF you promise not to expose my typos!! God bless, have a terrific Lord’s day!

  • 2 admin // Sep 28, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Hi Steve

    I wanted to respond to your recent Purpose Weekly but couldn’t find a place on the site you recommended. I recently bought the book because of your last weekly and I have an open mind to the message and to what he may be trying to convey. One thing is for sure God certainly doesn’t like when we put Him in a box. When we want answers to life’s difficult questions we must be open and teachable for the Holy Spirit to reveal truth. I do believe Mr Young was searching for an answer. We live in a fallen world and we know from God’s word that satan is the god of this world. I look forward to reading it and I am going to let the Holy Spirit reveal to me what the purpose really was. I appreciate your honesty and of course stirring the hearts of individuals to rethink their relationship with the Lord and allowing Him to be Lord of our lives. Sometimes we allow ourselves to get into a rut even when it comes to the Lord. He is always challenging our faith and seeing how we act in certain situations.

    Just wanted you to know that my book was released August 1. The Power of Love, Forgiveness and Surrender. My desire is that it too will challenge people about their walk with God. I truly believe that believers call Him Lord but He is not in reality. He truly helped me write the book and He gets all the Glory.

    Keep up the good work….keep stirring hearts.

    In His Love

    Millie

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